高大伟对话莱斯利·马斯多普:中国十分关注智慧城市的构建

  莱斯利·马斯多普,现任金砖国家新开发银行副行长兼首席财政官。他在私营和公共部门担任高层向导职务跨越25年。此前,他曾任美银美林南非分行董事总司理和行长。2002年,他成为首位被任命为高盛国际照料的非洲人。

  Leslie Maasdorp, Vice President and Chief Financial Officer of the New Development Bank, has over 25 years’ experience in senior leadership roles in both private and public sectors. Most recently, he served as a Managing Director and President of Bank of America Merrill Lynch for Southern Africa. In 2002, he was the first African to be appointed as International Advisor to Goldman Sachs International。

  高峻伟:莱斯利,你很领会天津,由于你来过天津许多次了。你也知道对天津来说,天下智能大会是一个异常主要的时刻。在这个大会上,我们会讨论许多关于智慧都会的话题。我想问问你,莱斯利,你怎么看智慧都会这个看法中的绿色维度?

  莱斯利:异常谢谢你的约请,大伟。你知道智慧都会的框架和看法在已往几年里不停演变。在所有大国中,包罗中国,政策制订者和企业都十分关注智慧都会的构建。

  对于我所任职的金砖国家新开发银行来说,我们以为智慧都会是可连续生长的都会,更是绿色的都会。从智慧都会的设计特色来看,其本质是提升都会的空气质量,消除都会中的太过污染。这些污染泉源于车辆尾气、工业排放、离都会近的燃煤发电站。金砖银行会深度介入其中,辅助中国、巴西、俄罗斯、印度和南非建设智慧、绿色、更宜居的都会。由于归根结底,智慧都会关乎人们的生涯质量,使都会设计加倍以人为本,而不仅仅与手艺有关。

  通常当人们想到智慧都会时,首先想到的是信息、通讯、电信基建。对我们来说,智慧都会是以人为本的生长,是打造绿色空间、建设智能电网。随着智慧都会理念的不停生长,最终会在很洪水平上依托手艺。我们都市拥有个性化的应用软件,为我们设定天天和每周的碳排放足迹,每小我私人都能为建设更好更宜居的都会做孝顺。

  大伟,我想强调一个事实,天下上污染最严重的十个都会中有六个在金砖国家其中大部门在印度。以是我们的机构和中国一样,都异常关注智慧都会的建设。

  我想说的最后一点是,智慧都会的理念若要获得乐成,需要有远见的政策制订者。在中国,在天津、厦门和我去过的许多其他都会,我都见到过高瞻远瞩的决议者。由于只有天真变通、不停顺应,才气在新手艺泛起时,做到逐步推进落实。

  因此,久远的眼光、耐久的设计,对一个高效的智慧都会而言至关主要。我以为这正是天津与众差其余地方。

  高峻伟:莱斯利,异常谢谢你告诉我们,当我们思索智慧都会时,固然需要想到科技,但可连续性和治理方式也是我们需要探讨的两个要害议题。适才你也提到,智慧都会必须是宜居都会。以是我想提第二个问题:你以为什么样的都会是宜居的?生涯在怎样的都会里人们会感应幸福?

  莱斯利:大伟,你知道都会是全球最大的碳排放源。为了让天下应对天气转变,都会处于这个议程的中央。

  人人可能知道,在所有国家中,中国做到了(以下这点)。2020年9月,中国国家主席习近平在团结国大会宣布将力争在2060年前实现“碳中和”;在2030年前,也就是在未来9年中,实现“碳达峰”,这意味着自那一时点起 中国的碳排放将只减不增。

  回到你的问题上从都会宜居性角度来看,这意味着什么呢?这意味着都会设计的所有重心都必须转移到更好地设计人们的生涯上来,使人们的生涯质量得以改善。

  宜居都会是绿色的都会。在这样的都会里,孩子们上学可以用智能交通工具,公交车都是电动的。对了,中国拥有天下上90%的电动公交车,以是宜居都会离不开电动车,由于汽车尾气极大加剧了我们正在履历的污染。另外,现在全球50%的电动车销量在中国。以是,建设宜居都会涉及所有这些差其余元素。正如我强调的,最主要的是天真变通和设计部署的能力,当新手艺泛起时,我们就接纳温顺应。

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  高峻伟:异常谢谢,莱斯利。我们会亲热关注天津天下智能大会的。这是一个异常主要的集会,对天津、对中国、对天下都是云云。由于在智慧都会、认知都会、宜居都会这个领域,我以为天下需要向中国学习。由量向质的转变在“十四五”设计中有很详尽的论述,这是中国构想设计也必将执行的新生长蓝图。莱斯利,异常谢谢你对天津天下智能大会的厚实孝顺,谢谢。

  莱斯利:谢谢。

  David: Leslie, you know Tianjin very well, because you have been several times in Tianjin. And you know that, again, this is a very important moment for Tianjin with the World Intelligence Congress, a Congress in which we are going to speak a lot about smart cities. I wanted to ask you, Leslie, how do you see the green dimension in this concept of smart city?

  Leslie: Thank you very much for having me, David. As you know, the smart city framework and concept have been evolving over the last number of years. In all of the biggest countries, China included, there’s been a significant focus by policy makers, by business, to contribute towards this effort, to create smart cities.

  For us, where I sit at the New Development Bank, we look at smart cities as sustainable cities, but a strong green element. If you look at the design features of what is a smart city, ultimately, David, it’s about cleaning up the quality of air, it’s about ridding the cities of the excessive pollution, which comes from vehicle exhaust, which comes from industrial emissions, which comes from coal-fired power stations, which are near the cities, to be very centrally involved as a bank in helping China and helping Brazil and helping Russia, India, South Africa to not only create smart cities, but green and more livable cities, because, ultimately, David, for us, smart cities is about quality of life and making a city’s urban planning more people-centered. It is not about technology.

  Often when people think smart cities, the first thing they think about is information, communication, telecoms infrastructure. For us, a smart city is about people-centered development. It’s about green spaces. It’s about smart grids. Eventually, as the small city concept evolves, David, it will become very much technology-based. We will all have personalized apps that will set out what is our emission footprint per day, per week, so that we can each contribute to a better, more livable city.

  David, I should highlight to you that some of the most polluted cities in the world, six of the top ten most polluted cities in the world are in the BRICS countries. Most of them are in India. So, there’s a significant focus by our institution, and also here in China, as you know, on creating smart cities.

  Maybe the last point I’d like to make is that it is very important for a smart city concept to be successful, to have far-sighted policy makers. What we have in China, Tianjin, Xiamen, and many other cities that I have visited, I have seen policy makers focused on the long term, because it’s only the agility, the ability to adapt as new technologies coming, you implement in an incremental manner。

  So, long-term horizons, long-term planning is central to an effective, smart city. I think this is where Tianjin will differentiate itself。

  David: Thank you very much, Leslie, for telling us that when we think about a smart city, of course, we need to think about technology, but sustainability and governance are also two key themes that one needs to discuss. But you said also in your presentation that a smart city has to be a livable city. I wanted to ask you a second question, what in your opinion makes a city livable, a city in which we feel happy to live in?

  Leslie: Cities, David, as you know, are the single largest contributors to emissions globally. In order for the world to deal with climate change, cities are right at the center of that agenda.

  As you know, just as a backdrop, in all of our countries, China has, in September 2020, President Xi Jinping at the United Nations General Assembly announced 2060 as the date when China wants to achieve carbon net zero. And by 2030, which by the way is 9 years from now, China wishes to have peak emissions, which means that from that point onwards, China will only remove more emissions from the atmosphere.

  Come to your question, what does that actually mean in terms of the livability of cities? It means that the entire focus of planning has to shift towards organizing people’s livelihood in such a manner that they can improve their quality of life。

  A livable city is about green spaces. It’s about a city where children can go to school with smart mobility where buses are electrified. China, by the way, has 90% of the electric bus fleet in the world. So, livable cities is about electric vehicles because emissions from cars contribute greatly to the pollution that we are experiencing. Again, 50 % of all electric vehicle sales in the world today are in China. So, making a city livable is about all of these different elements. And what’s important, as I highlighted, is that agility, the ability to plan, move forward, when new technology comes, you adopt and you adapt。

  David: Thank you very much, Leslie. So, we will pay attention to the World Intelligence Congress. This is a very important event for Tianjin, for China, but I think also for the world. Because in terms of smart cities, cognitive cities, or livable cities, it seems to me that the world also has to learn from what China is doing and the shift from quantity to quality is very well illustrated in the 14th Five-Year Plan that China has just conceived, designed, and that China will implement. Thank you very much, Leslie, for your very rich contribution to the World Intelligence Congress. Thank you。

  Leslie: Thank you。

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